Comments on: Eavesdropping at Starbucks http://inamirrordimly.com/2005/03/17/eavesdropping-at-starbucks/ A theology and culture blog with the Bible in one tab and a news feed in the other. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:48:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ed http://inamirrordimly.com/2005/03/17/eavesdropping-at-starbucks/#comment-14 Ed Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:41:03 +0000 #comment-14 It sounds like we need a new definition of "save" in that context. It sounds like we need a new definition of "save" in that context.

]]> By: Jamie Voss http://inamirrordimly.com/2005/03/17/eavesdropping-at-starbucks/#comment-12 Jamie Voss Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:28:28 +0000 #comment-12 In a sobering experience, I stood outside an abortion clinic, there to pray and observe, and witnessed frightened women coming in to the clinic, harrassed by Christian pro-life demonstrators. One demonstrator declared "God will not be mocked." Another affronted her with graphic photos of abortions. I spoke with the demonstrators, and listened as they spoke of the "saves" they had made that month- women who decided not to get an abortion (that day.) My heart felt like breaking as I saw that not one of the Christian protesters stayed to be with the women AFTER the abortion when the women needed comfort, forgiveness and healing. The Christians left at noon- after the abortions had started for the day. No one was there to meet with the women when they needed Jesus most- after they were hurting, and had been through a traumatic ordeal. I began thinking about the "saves" and wondering how many spiritual lives were totally disregarded and lost by the actions of Christians that day.<br /> I believe that if Christians were meeting the women with compassion both before AND after the abortion, showing them where to get help and counseling after the abortion, a lot more eternal lives (and in turn physical lives) would be saved. In a sobering experience, I stood outside an abortion clinic, there to pray and observe, and witnessed frightened women coming in to the clinic, harrassed by Christian pro-life demonstrators. One demonstrator declared "God will not be mocked." Another affronted her with graphic photos of abortions. I spoke with the demonstrators, and listened as they spoke of the "saves" they had made that month- women who decided not to get an abortion (that day.) My heart felt like breaking as I saw that not one of the Christian protesters stayed to be with the women AFTER the abortion when the women needed comfort, forgiveness and healing. The Christians left at noon- after the abortions had started for the day. No one was there to meet with the women when they needed Jesus most- after they were hurting, and had been through a traumatic ordeal. I began thinking about the "saves" and wondering how many spiritual lives were totally disregarded and lost by the actions of Christians that day.
I believe that if Christians were meeting the women with compassion both before AND after the abortion, showing them where to get help and counseling after the abortion, a lot more eternal lives (and in turn physical lives) would be saved.

]]> By: Ed http://inamirrordimly.com/2005/03/17/eavesdropping-at-starbucks/#comment-11 Ed Mon, 21 Mar 2005 14:16:19 +0000 #comment-11 I think that you have hit on something in your comment:<br /> <br /> "In most cases of abortion it is NOT the woman's desire at all but a forced decision by external factors such as boyfriend, family, friends, employers, finances, and in some cases even churches and schools."<br /> <br /> In light of this, how can we be both pro-woman and pro-baby in our bid to be pro-life, but not pro-control? I think that you have hit on something in your comment:

"In most cases of abortion it is NOT the woman’s desire at all but a forced decision by external factors such as boyfriend, family, friends, employers, finances, and in some cases even churches and schools."

In light of this, how can we be both pro-woman and pro-baby in our bid to be pro-life, but not pro-control?

]]> By: Laura Coppersmith http://inamirrordimly.com/2005/03/17/eavesdropping-at-starbucks/#comment-10 Laura Coppersmith Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:48:44 +0000 #comment-10 A woman is created with an inate ability to "mother" and a desire (nomatter how squelched or ruined by others) to take care of her own offspring.<br /> It is not natural nor beneficial to cut off this God given privelege. Society has done women a GREAt injustice by making them think that a baby is a burden. In most cases of abortion it is NOT the woman's desire at all but a forced decision by external factors such as boyfriend, family, friends, employers, finances, and in some cases even churches and schools.<br /> The woman is told that the baby she is carrying is nothing but a mass of tissue. Countless woman who have been presured and decieved into abortion live with medical problems and regret and guilt for the rest of thier life.<br /> Pro-Choice may claim to be all about women's rights but the whole picture is hardly ever presented and the choice left to the woman herself. <br /> As a strong prolifer and a woman, my heart BREAKS for both the woman and the child who are BOTH victims of this tragic line of thinking. God help us... A woman is created with an inate ability to "mother" and a desire (nomatter how squelched or ruined by others) to take care of her own offspring.
It is not natural nor beneficial to cut off this God given privelege. Society has done women a GREAt injustice by making them think that a baby is a burden. In most cases of abortion it is NOT the woman’s desire at all but a forced decision by external factors such as boyfriend, family, friends, employers, finances, and in some cases even churches and schools.
The woman is told that the baby she is carrying is nothing but a mass of tissue. Countless woman who have been presured and decieved into abortion live with medical problems and regret and guilt for the rest of thier life.
Pro-Choice may claim to be all about women’s rights but the whole picture is hardly ever presented and the choice left to the woman herself.
As a strong prolifer and a woman, my heart BREAKS for both the woman and the child who are BOTH victims of this tragic line of thinking. God help us…

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