Comments on: The Biblical Roots of Revival: The Case for Lakeland http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/ An imperfect and sometimes sarcastic perspective on following Jesus by Ed Cyzewski. Tue, 22 May 2012 18:37:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Spirit Week: Charismatic Chaos or (Holy) Spirited Deconstruction? | Mike Morrell http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-6292 Spirit Week: Charismatic Chaos or (Holy) Spirited Deconstruction? | Mike Morrell Sat, 19 Nov 2011 15:46:00 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-6292 [...] Ed Cyzewski favorably explores the Biblical roots of revival [...] [...] Ed Cyzewski favorably explores the Biblical roots of revival [...]

]]> By: Allan Svensson http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1803 Allan Svensson Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:29:36 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1803 Hi. I found your Web Site by Google And I wish you the best you can get, the peace of God through Jesus Christ. Welcome to visit my Site. Allan Svensson, Sweden Why does the revival tarry? It is because God's people tarry to obey the powerful command of the Lord in Rev. 18:4. This is the most powerful revival message of the Lord to his people in our time. http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/INDEX.HTM The coming revival, a nameless revival http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/POWERFUL.HTM Why was the Pentecostal Revival stopped? http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CRISIS.HTM Hi.
I found your Web Site by Google
And I wish you the best you can get,
the peace of God through Jesus Christ.

Welcome to visit my Site.
Allan Svensson, Sweden

Why does the revival tarry? It is because God’s
people tarry to obey the powerful command of
the Lord in Rev. 18:4. This is the most powerful
revival message of the Lord to his people in our time.
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/INDEX.HTM

The coming revival, a nameless revival
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/POWERFUL.HTM

Why was the Pentecostal Revival stopped?
http://www.algonet.se/~allan-sv/CRISIS.HTM

]]> By: ed http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1654 ed Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:39:46 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1654 Good point. Of course we don't want to say that God's way always has to be offensive, but that we should merely be willing to overlook some things that may raise eyebrows or ring a bit odd. It is fascinating to read through scripture and to see how God moves both within and without the religious establishment. Good point. Of course we don’t want to say that God’s way always has to be offensive, but that we should merely be willing to overlook some things that may raise eyebrows or ring a bit odd. It is fascinating to read through scripture and to see how God moves both within and without the religious establishment.

]]> By: Patsy http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1651 Patsy Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:33:00 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1651 Jesus stood up to a bunch of Jews and said that unless they eat his flesh and drink his blood, they would not inherit the kingdom. That is NOT the way to gain friends and followers in the Jewish community. It seems throughout scripture that God has made a habit out of choosing offensive men and methods to deliberately offend the sensibilities of people so that they will seek HIM. The package offends because the Lord is looking for people who will look past their offense into the heart of God and find something new and fresh there for them. Jesus stood up to a bunch of Jews and said that unless they eat his flesh and drink his blood, they would not inherit the kingdom. That is NOT the way to gain friends and followers in the Jewish community.

It seems throughout scripture that God has made a habit out of choosing offensive men and methods to deliberately offend the sensibilities of people so that they will seek HIM. The package offends because the Lord is looking for people who will look past their offense into the heart of God and find something new and fresh there for them.

]]> By: Charismatic Chaos or (Holy) Spirited Deconstruction? « zoecarnate http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1646 Charismatic Chaos or (Holy) Spirited Deconstruction? « zoecarnate Tue, 27 May 2008 19:18:26 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1646 [...] Ed Cyzewski favorably explores the Biblical roots of revival [...] [...] Ed Cyzewski favorably explores the Biblical roots of revival [...]

]]> By: ed http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1629 ed Sun, 18 May 2008 16:14:43 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1629 Shelly, I agree with you. We should never turn off our brains or ignore our theology. I'm coming at the revival from the standpoint of challenging cessationists, who believe that God cannot possibly intervene in our world with miracles, prophecies, etc. When I said, "Please hold back your condemnation and look into it, remembering that if it’s from God it will produce fruit, but if it is not from God it will fall apart (see Acts 5:33-39)," I'm asking that we not be critical of something that could potentially be the work of the Holy Spirit. Like I said, doubting is fine. So long as our doubting is in the context of testing to make sure it's God, we're in good shape. I never wanted to insinuate that we accept stuff like Lakeland uncritically, only that we not dismiss it out of hand without looking for God's work in the midst of it. There are parts of this that are worthy of skepticism, but I think we should be very careful when it comes to rejecting the work of God today. I hate to say it, but it's a matter of balance. Thanks for adding that to the post. Shelly, I agree with you. We should never turn off our brains or ignore our theology. I’m coming at the revival from the standpoint of challenging cessationists, who believe that God cannot possibly intervene in our world with miracles, prophecies, etc.

When I said, “Please hold back your condemnation and look into it, remembering that if it’s from God it will produce fruit, but if it is not from God it will fall apart (see Acts 5:33-39),” I’m asking that we not be critical of something that could potentially be the work of the Holy Spirit. Like I said, doubting is fine. So long as our doubting is in the context of testing to make sure it’s God, we’re in good shape. I never wanted to insinuate that we accept stuff like Lakeland uncritically, only that we not dismiss it out of hand without looking for God’s work in the midst of it. There are parts of this that are worthy of skepticism, but I think we should be very careful when it comes to rejecting the work of God today.

I hate to say it, but it’s a matter of balance. Thanks for adding that to the post.

]]> By: shelly http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 shelly Sun, 18 May 2008 04:20:39 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1627 The Bible also says to "test the spirits" (1 John 4:1) and that we're <i>supposed</i> to question this sort of thing (1 Thessalonians 5:21). While there may be good things happening in Lakeland, it doesn't mean that it's always God at work. Anyhoo, at the moment, I would be more apt to call this an "outpouring" than a "revival". The Bible also says to “test the spirits” (1 John 4:1) and that we’re supposed to question this sort of thing (1 Thessalonians 5:21). While there may be good things happening in Lakeland, it doesn’t mean that it’s always God at work.

Anyhoo, at the moment, I would be more apt to call this an “outpouring” than a “revival”.

]]> By: John http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1626 John Sun, 18 May 2008 03:16:01 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1626 This reminds me of something John Wimber wrote. He said that he did not believe that you had to speak in tongues to have a gift of healing, but he had never seen anyone with a powerful healing ministry that did not speak in tongues. We have to let the Holy Spirit do things His way, and not try to get Him to fit into our human logic. This reminds me of something John Wimber wrote. He said that he did not believe that you had to speak in tongues to have a gift of healing, but he had never seen anyone with a powerful healing ministry that did not speak in tongues. We have to let the Holy Spirit do things His way, and not try to get Him to fit into our human logic.

]]> By: ed http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1614 ed Wed, 14 May 2008 16:30:40 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1614 I'm with you on that point. My mother-in-law had wise words along similar lines: "You can take the wine, but you don't need to take the wine skin." While that can be hard in certain situations, I'm all for an openness to the work of God, but I don't have to accept revivalists completely. However, we need to keep in mind that most Christians define themselves with qualifiers: "I'm Evangelical, but I'm not a republican or against evolution," or "I'm interested in the emerging church, but I truly value scripture as my norming, norm and hold to historic Christianity." So I think it's fair to say we're in support of the work of God in this revival even if we don't buy into all of the methods and words used. Thanks for balancing out my reaction here Grace. I’m with you on that point. My mother-in-law had wise words along similar lines: “You can take the wine, but you don’t need to take the wine skin.” While that can be hard in certain situations, I’m all for an openness to the work of God, but I don’t have to accept revivalists completely.

However, we need to keep in mind that most Christians define themselves with qualifiers: “I’m Evangelical, but I’m not a republican or against evolution,” or “I’m interested in the emerging church, but I truly value scripture as my norming, norm and hold to historic Christianity.” So I think it’s fair to say we’re in support of the work of God in this revival even if we don’t buy into all of the methods and words used.

Thanks for balancing out my reaction here Grace.

]]> By: grace http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/comment-page-1/#comment-1612 grace Tue, 13 May 2008 18:49:32 +0000 http://inamirrordimly.com/2008/05/12/the-biblical-roots-of-revival-the-case-for-lakewood/#comment-1612 Ed, I share your concern for openness to the spirit of God and whatever manifestations that might include. It is all too easy to write off things that are unfamiliar or odd and miss that God was in the midst of them. I wonder if there is potential to free supernatural experiences from the charimatic celebrity club that so often taints the motives of ministers and hijacks the attention of those needing healing and restoration. Ed,
I share your concern for openness to the spirit of God and whatever manifestations that might include. It is all too easy to write off things that are unfamiliar or odd and miss that God was in the midst of them.

I wonder if there is potential to free supernatural experiences from the charimatic celebrity club that so often taints the motives of ministers and hijacks the attention of those needing healing and restoration.

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