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	<title>Comments on: Defining Ourselves by What We Are Not: Thoughts on the &#8220;Good-Bye&#8221; Emergent Posts</title>
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	<description>An imperfect and sometimes sarcastic perspective on following Jesus by Ed Cyzewski.</description>
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		<title>By: Theology From the Mop Closet &#124; jonathan stegall: creative tension</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theology From the Mop Closet &#124; jonathan stegall: creative tension</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of dialog happen within Emergent circles. To an extent it is continuing to happen as folks here and there state that, regardless of whatever theological differences they might have with whomever they might [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of dialog happen within Emergent circles. To an extent it is continuing to happen as folks here and there state that, regardless of whatever theological differences they might have with whomever they might [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Saturday Links — DashHouse.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saturday Links — DashHouse.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ed Cyzewski reacts to the &#8220;Good-Bye&#8221; Emergent posts [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jamie Arpin-Ricci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Arpin-Ricci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 03:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, brother!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, brother!</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 20:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments! I didn&#039;t get into the history of Protestants dividing, but that&#039;s part of the picture too. Thanks for bringing that up Lisa. Someone mentioned that via facebook today too. Nic, you&#039;re right that this is bigger than we would suppose, which is another great reason why it doesn&#039;t help all that much to make a &quot;grand exit.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments! I didn&#8217;t get into the history of Protestants dividing, but that&#8217;s part of the picture too. Thanks for bringing that up Lisa. Someone mentioned that via facebook today too. Nic, you&#8217;re right that this is bigger than we would suppose, which is another great reason why it doesn&#8217;t help all that much to make a &#8220;grand exit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: nic paton</title>
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		<dc:creator>nic paton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 16:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed
The challenge is to minor on protest and major on attesting. That&#039;s why worship is a key. 

For me emergence remains something bigger than EC; it is a fundamental description of how the universe operates. You can no more &quot;leave&quot; emergence than you can sing with John Meyer &quot;Gravity, get the hell away from me&quot;. Not possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed<br />
The challenge is to minor on protest and major on attesting. That&#8217;s why worship is a key. </p>
<p>For me emergence remains something bigger than EC; it is a fundamental description of how the universe operates. You can no more &#8220;leave&#8221; emergence than you can sing with John Meyer &#8220;Gravity, get the hell away from me&#8221;. Not possible.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has been on my mind too.

I suppose all movements are such. Martin Luther didn&#039;t want to break off and form something new. He wanted reform. When that couldn&#039;t happen, there was a break, and it was defined by what it was not.

You have a great point, and I think that drawing lines in the sand can make it about us, not about the Story of God / gospel, etc. 

How much is being on top of the next big trend what defines us? 

Various &quot;cutting edge / hipster&quot; (if you will) perspectives can override some basic theology sometimes, where it would be wise to abide in a level of mature balance that withstands trends.

Yet, the great thing about movements, as they burst onto the scene, is that-- if we don&#039;t dismiss them outright-- they can help us look carefully at ourselves, our faults, adjust, and grow. Oh, that we can never be so sure that we stop learning, or resist being humbled by detractors, as God uses them for that. 

These movement are useful, even if short-lived.
Ed. Thanks!
-Lisa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has been on my mind too.</p>
<p>I suppose all movements are such. Martin Luther didn&#8217;t want to break off and form something new. He wanted reform. When that couldn&#8217;t happen, there was a break, and it was defined by what it was not.</p>
<p>You have a great point, and I think that drawing lines in the sand can make it about us, not about the Story of God / gospel, etc. </p>
<p>How much is being on top of the next big trend what defines us? </p>
<p>Various &#8220;cutting edge / hipster&#8221; (if you will) perspectives can override some basic theology sometimes, where it would be wise to abide in a level of mature balance that withstands trends.</p>
<p>Yet, the great thing about movements, as they burst onto the scene, is that&#8211; if we don&#8217;t dismiss them outright&#8211; they can help us look carefully at ourselves, our faults, adjust, and grow. Oh, that we can never be so sure that we stop learning, or resist being humbled by detractors, as God uses them for that. </p>
<p>These movement are useful, even if short-lived.<br />
Ed. Thanks!<br />
-Lisa</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Moffitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Moffitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rock on, Ed.  Sane and civil, like all public dialogue *should* be. (Le sigh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock on, Ed.  Sane and civil, like all public dialogue *should* be. (Le sigh)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Morrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Morrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo Trip and Adam - of &lt;i&gt;course&lt;/i&gt; we don&#039;t want to be branded into a corner - for all kinds of good as well as silly reasons. If we can catch some of your grace and diversification, Ed, this whole thing would be a non-issue.

Thanks for the sanity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo Trip and Adam &#8211; of <i>course</i> we don&#8217;t want to be branded into a corner &#8211; for all kinds of good as well as silly reasons. If we can catch some of your grace and diversification, Ed, this whole thing would be a non-issue.</p>
<p>Thanks for the sanity!</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Adam. Tripp, let&#039;s schedule it. I had a much funnier version of this post where I talked about how you and had these deep differences... such as I don&#039;t smoke cigars...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Adam. Tripp, let&#8217;s schedule it. I had a much funnier version of this post where I talked about how you and had these deep differences&#8230; such as I don&#8217;t smoke cigars&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic post!  I really appreciate your insight attitude, and tone here.  Thanks for modeling a better way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic post!  I really appreciate your insight attitude, and tone here.  Thanks for modeling a better way.</p>
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